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Aksinya Samoylova's avatar

I like how you emphasize the need for breadth, depth, and integration in learning about the past of human relationships with technology in the Afterword. Interestingly enough, these are dimensions of polymathy, and this is what attracted me to your article – it appeared to be highly polymathic. In my book "Why Polymaths?", I arrive at the conclusion that the future is polymathic.

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Stowe Boyd's avatar

You might consider Rebecca Solnit's distinction between optimists, pessimists, and the hopeful.

> Hope locates itself in the premises that we don’t know what will happen and that in the spaciousness of uncertainty is room to act. When you recognise uncertainty, you recognise that you may be able to influence the outcomes – you alone or you in concert with a few dozen or several million others. Hope is an embrace of the unknown and the unknowable, an alternative to the certainty of both optimists and pessimists. Optimists think it will all be fine without our involvement; pessimists adopt the opposite position; both excuse themselves from acting. It is the belief that what we do matters even though how and when it may matter, who and what it may impact, are not things we can know beforehand. We may not, in fact, know them afterwards either, but they matter all the same, and history is full of people whose influence was most powerful after they were gone.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/jul/15/rebecca-solnit-hope-in-the-dark-new-essay-embrace-unknown

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Cybil Smith's avatar

Well, Substack’s algorithm has pointed me in the right direction: https://open.substack.com/pub/cybilxtheais/p/cybils-ai-poetry-1?r=2ar57s&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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Michael Woudenberg's avatar

There's a group of us here on Substack who call ourselves Techno-pragmatists.

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Andrew Maynard's avatar

I thought about using something like that, or a techno-realist, but shied away from both as both of them lead down a conceptual alley that leads to thinking about a technology as something separate to our history of interdependent development. Still wide open to debate though.

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Michael Woudenberg's avatar

I think it's a good term and not a cop-out. It's pragmatic and avoids a false binary. I like pragmatist over -realist because between all the AI and human hallucinations, I'm pragmatically unsure what's real.

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Johnathan Reid's avatar

We're already getting close to mainstream subsumption of technology into our bodies (it's already reached our conscious minds). So is it worth the effort to try and direct human and technological evolution? Might not sticking to our existing random walk (or crawl) remain sufficient, with Darwinian style winnowing of the least fit forms of government, technology, ethics, religion, etc? There is, after all, no particular hurry – or predefined goals – to achieve to get where we think we should be going. It would be a sorry form of existence if humanity converged on being solely concerned with 'throw me into more tech to grow me some more money'.

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Andy @Revkin's avatar

Have you talked to ASU colleague Brad Allenby much about this over the years? You have me recalling his work on the techno human condition with Dan Sarewitz!

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Andrew Maynard's avatar

Yep - lots : ) And good reminder of their work -- they were arguing something similar back in 2013, although with more of a focus on how technology and humanity are intertwining and changing the very essence of being human, something that is part of the landscape here that I barely brush against in this piece, but also deeply important

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Mark Daley's avatar

Where does one sign up to begin training for a 'pilot's license?

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Andrew Maynard's avatar

... somebody needs to build the program first :)

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Mark Daley's avatar

That sounds very much like the type of thing that would be exceptionally worthwhile to build.

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Andrew Maynard's avatar

Certainly something that's on our radar here

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